Feature #9144

Operation Unknown Choppers

Added by JDMT about 5 years ago. Updated over 4 years ago.

Status:Expired Start date:02/17/2010
Priority:Low Due date:
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Description

There is no ticket for this, I've already searched, so I made one.

Add SFC.Itzhak's CH-46E and CH-53D(E?) to ACE2.

History

Updated by LIUC about 5 years ago

Hallo ! I wanna suggest to put in ACE2 mod helicopter Kamov 50 . KA50 very powerfull helicopter and i think it shoul be in ace2 mod .I and many others I think are very thankful for everything what making Ace creators . Thank you very very much, ACE is wonderful!!!

Best Regards !

Updated by Xeno about 5 years ago

  • Category set to Model
  • Status changed from New to Assigned
  • Assignee set to Aushilfe
  • Priority changed from Normal to Low
  • Target version set to 395

JDMT wrote:

There is no ticket for this, I've already searched, so I made one.

Add SFC.Itzhak's CH-46E and CH-53D(E?) to ACE2.

Like in the other ticket...

It's done when it's done!

Updated by rocko about 5 years ago

  • Assignee changed from Aushilfe to Scubaman3D

Updated by Scubaman3D about 5 years ago

  • Assignee changed from Scubaman3D to sfc.itzhak

Updated by Alderman about 5 years ago

On behalf of the 3rd Marine Division as the units commander we officially endorse the sfc's addons being added to ACE. Our unit was tasked with the beta testing before its recent release, but we will not find it in use until it is included in the mod. This would be a great addition and a nice change to see additions on the USMC side of the house.

Updated by JDMT about 5 years ago

Xeno wrote:

JDMT wrote:

There is no ticket for this, I've already searched, so I made one.

Add SFC.Itzhak's CH-46E and CH-53D(E?) to ACE2.

Like in the other ticket...

It's done when it's done!

Rocko told me to make this ticket, because there is no other ticket.

Updated by JDMT about 5 years ago

LIUC wrote:

Hallo ! I wanna suggest to put in ACE2 mod helicopter Kamov 50 . KA50 very powerfull helicopter and i think it shoul be in ace2 mod .I and many others I think are very thankful for everything what making Ace creators . Thank you very very much, ACE is wonderful!!!

Best Regards !

It's being worked on, I just don't want to bombard the tracker with tickets, the model is done, just needs some improvements and to be sent to rocko.

I also have to make a ticket grouping all of Binkowski's work.

Updated by JDMT about 5 years ago

After these are added the only chopper missing from the Marine's rotary wing is the UH-1N.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbeBvWmIWXs

Updated by Alderman about 5 years ago

JDMT wrote:

After these are added the only chopper missing from the Marine's rotary wing is the UH-1N.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbeBvWmIWXs

Not really, the UH-1N's for the most part got upgraded to the UH-1Y with the H-1 upgrade program.

Updated by JDMT about 5 years ago

Alderman wrote:

JDMT wrote:

After these are added the only chopper missing from the Marine's rotary wing is the UH-1N.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbeBvWmIWXs

Not really, the UH-1N's for the most part got upgraded to the UH-1Y with the H-1 upgrade program.

So Itzhak finished the Marines Rotary Wing, we have everything?

Updated by sfc.itzhak about 5 years ago

  • % Done changed from 0 to 30

well guys allready started updating the d versoin to the e.
bug fixing and adding proper lods.
want to run an idea.

what version to add
ch-53 D SEA STALLION
CH-53 E SUPER STALLION
OR THE USAF MH-53

basically the mh-53 is a ch-53 d with upgrades.
we can keep the file size pretty small..

sfc

Updated by AnimalMother92 about 5 years ago

my vote goes for the CH-53E Super Stallion for the USMC. Didn't the USAF retire their pave lows a few years back?

Updated by Alderman about 5 years ago

Go with the USMC CH-53E, since its more in line with the game and have USMC units. THe Ch-53D is being phased out and replaced by V-22, but it will not be replacing the CH-53E.

Updated by Xeno about 5 years ago

The MH-53E Sea Dragon is missing.

Updated by AnimalMother92 about 5 years ago

Isn't the Sea Dragon US Navy?

The MH-53E Sea Dragon is the Navy's helicopter most prone to accidents, with 27 deaths from 1984 to 2008. Its rate of "Class A" mishaps ($1 million damage or loss of life) is 5.96 per 100,000 flight hours, more than twice the Navy helicopter average of 2.26

Not encouraging..

Updated by Banderas about 5 years ago

MH-53 Pave Low was retired from USAF service in 2008, though in a fictional world of OpF/ArmA it might still see service.

CH-53D (along with CH-46E) is not completely phased out from service yet and I read somewhere they'll be kept for a longer time than anticipated (need confirmation - NOT! from wikipedia).

There is a little number of MH-53E Sea Dragons in service as of now, and they are mainly for mine sweeping and naval airlifting operations, like the different versions of SH/MH-60 in Navy (didn't really understand in the first place, why BI added only the MH-60 as a medium troop transport, as much as I know from Marine's perspective they are used to transport FR/MARSOC units mainly...). Also there is already an MH-53E addon out, made by Gachopin, incorrectly made into USAF/Marines versions too (these don't have the enlarged sponsons of the sea Dragon).

Updated by Alderman about 5 years ago

That's why we should go with the CH-53E Super Stallion and if not the CH-53D Sea Stallion

Updated by Alderman about 5 years ago

Banderas wrote:

CH-53D (along with CH-46E) is not completely phased out from service yet and I read somewhere they'll be kept for a longer time than anticipated (need confirmation - NOT! from wikipedia).

My Aviation Detachment Commander (3rd MD Realism Unit) was a USMC CH-53 Crew Chief. I will get more details from him as I am sure he would know.

Updated by Meatball0311 about 5 years ago

so are the issues that are of concern being addressed?

Most importantly.. the landing or dismounting of troops. The helo no matter what you tell it to do (except a helo land "GET OUT", but that tells all to get out and engines shut off totally), will hover too high above the deck resulting in units injuring themselves on dismount.
- packs of units hang out of fuselage when being transported
- rotor blades are not visible at certain distances when in view distance of unit
- landing gears of CH53 do not retract when AI is flying

Havent heard much or any updates to the workability or fixing of these addons.. as it doesnt matter if it is a 53E or 53D if it cant transport troops and dismount them properly.

just had to get that off of my chest... now me happy!

Updated by Meatball0311 about 5 years ago

so does this mean that the Operation Unknown helo's are now apart of ACE? Are they now going to be updated via Six-Updater?

Updated by AnimalMother92 about 5 years ago

Meatball0311 wrote:

so does this mean that the Operation Unknown helo's are now apart of ACE? Are they now going to be updated via Six-Updater?

Well it says 30% so I don't think it's ready to be included yet. I hope there is progress being made however :)

Updated by jax about 5 years ago

Alderman wrote:

Banderas wrote:

CH-53D (along with CH-46E) is not completely phased out from service yet and I read somewhere they'll be kept for a longer time than anticipated (need confirmation - NOT! from wikipedia).

My Aviation Detachment Commander (3rd MD Realism Unit) was a USMC CH-53 Crew Chief. I will get more details from him as I am sure he would know.

The CH53D and the CH53E are currently being utilized for combat operations. The original phase out date for the CH53D was June 2005, but due to the MV22 being a complete and utter failer of an aircraft the Marine Corps decided to keep the CH53D around with an airframe life extention of 10 years, so we are looking at a phase out date of around June 2015. I was a crew chief and mechanic on the CH53E (5 years), CH53D (4 years)and the MH53E (2 years - Joint USMC/US Navy squadron HMT-302).

The Marine Corps is also still using the UH-1N and will not phase them out until the UH-1Y is completely finished it's testing phase. There is currently only 2 active UH-1Y helo units (one east and one west coast and neither of which are victor units) and the rest are UH-1N. They have, however, retrofitted many of the current UH-1N helicoptor's with many of the advanced systems, but the main frame has not be retrofitted, to my understanding, to the four blade model. The Marine Corp will most likely keep a single UH-1N unit around, just like they did with the CH53D, until it became apparent they are awesome and could kick the hell out of the MV-22.

sfc.itzhak I suggest you make both the CH53E and the CH53D models as they are both very active and will be until a minimum of 2015.

Updated by Meatball0311 about 5 years ago

AnimalMother92 wrote:

Meatball0311 wrote:

so does this mean that the Operation Unknown helo's are now apart of ACE? Are they now going to be updated via Six-Updater?

Well it says 30% so I don't think it's ready to be included yet. I hope there is progress being made however :)

Thanks a lot bro, but I am more or less asking if this addon is now officially apart of ACE and if so WHEN there is a fix to the bugs will it be updated via SIX UPDATER.

Updated by sfc.itzhak about 5 years ago

as far as i know it will be part of acex.

i am working on fixing the bugs and the other details.

will update with more detail later today.

sfc.

Updated by AnimalMother92 about 5 years ago

thanks for the heads-up itzhak!
really looking forward to seeing these in ACE :)

Updated by Meatball0311 about 5 years ago

sfc.itzhak wrote:

as far as i know it will be part of acex.

i am working on fixing the bugs and the other details.

will update with more detail later today.

sfc.

appreciate it homie! keep up the good work...

Updated by jax about 5 years ago

Any news on the updates itzhak?

Updated by Meatball0311 about 5 years ago

hey jax.. cant you see the name is 'Operation Unknown', nobody knows where the update is at :)

Updated by sfc.itzhak about 5 years ago

funny...

nothing to update for now still working on the bugs and adding the e versoin.

creating lods and fixing details.

trying to finnish as fast as i can.

sfc.

p.s
will release a small patch to fix the major bugs in the beta release.

Updated by jax about 5 years ago

Awesome. Just checking in and glad to hear everything is still moving forward. If you need any assistance with anything just hit me up on skype or on the 3rdMD forums.

Updated by rocko about 5 years ago

  • Target version changed from 395 to Planned (Needs Contributors)

Updated by rocko about 5 years ago

alive?

Updated by AnimalMother92 about 5 years ago

Itzhak posted on the BI forums today

hey mates.
after a small leave had the time to come back and add a small update.
i fixed the majority of the bugs in the first release.
(landing bug fixed,
rotor bug ch-46 fixed,
back packs bug fixed,
co pilot head also fixed.)
if there anything more to be done let me know for a more stable updated release
sfc.

Updated by Kristian almost 5 years ago

Itzhak gave us an ipdate:

"ok after a lonnng time not here will update..

after a delay will release a new version this week with fixed stuff..

-new sounds for both of them (thanks Chris)
-hope fully weapons to both of the helos
-new scripts for landing gear and ramp (thanks meatball)
-added nose fuel gear
-and will integrate the new skins of brainbug.
-fixed the landing bug
-added damage points"

What does this mean from ACE mods point of view? Are we getting closer to getting these birds finally into ACE mod? :)

Updated by rocko almost 5 years ago

  • Status changed from Assigned to Expired
  • Assignee deleted (sfc.itzhak)
  • Target version deleted (Planned (Needs Contributors))

Updated by JDMT over 4 years ago

It's been 8 months, we need this for ACEX_USNavy? What's going on? Did Itzhak ever donate the mlods?

Updated by rocko over 4 years ago

  • Category deleted (Model)
  • % Done changed from 30 to 0

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