Bug #3242

AI use wire fences as cover

Added by DomProgZ over 5 years ago. Updated about 3 years ago.

Status:Assigned Start date:08/01/2009
Priority:Normal Due date:12/01/2010
Assignee:- % Done:

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Category:AI Issues
Target version:-
Affected ArmA II version:1.55 BETA First affected build:
Reproduced by another DH user:Yes First affected ArmA II version:
I am using some Mods:No Single / Multi Player?:
I am using:CO (A2+OA) BIForumURL:
Reproducible for you:Yes NGUrl:
Related to content of DLC: WIKIurl:

Description

When soldiers use walls as cover they do not take account of whether they transparent (wire fences) or solid like brick. This can make them very vulnerable.

Wire_20Fence_20Test_201.Chernarus.zip (1.3 kB) DomProgZ, 08/02/2009 00:22

SS-2009.10.02-00.39.45.jpg (696.5 kB) Fireball, 10/01/2009 22:41


Related issues

related to ARMA2 Community Issue Tracker - Bug #1709: Wrong/impenetrable fire-geo on chain link fences Closed 06/01/2009

History

Updated by acf over 5 years ago

Related to Bug 1709?

Updated by DomProgZ over 5 years ago

The title should have been "AI use wire fences as cover"

It maybe related to bug #1709, but that depends on how Arma 2 is implemented.

Updated by Squelch over 5 years ago

  • Subject changed from AI use wire fences a cover to AI use wire fences as cover

Updated by Squelch over 5 years ago

#1709 is indeed related. The fire geometry will stop bullets and the AI uses it for targeting and visibility checks.

Updated by DomProgZ over 5 years ago

I did a future check on this today. The wire fences in this example do allow bullets to pass through them and the AI to see through them as well. However I think what I meant was AI stands up behind wire fences which is bad if they are under fire which may just be a current limitation of the AI. The other 4 problems that I posted #3241, #3240, #3239 and #3238 probably are simpler to solve.
AI control is almost infinitely complex computationally in general and all we can really hope for is that the AI more effective statically, given how slow CPUs still are.
I’m glad Arma 2 is loads better than Arma 1 which was very good anyway.
I think this problem particular I posted is quite minor really and was probably too picky.
Sorry this example is for Chernarus, which has masses of fences.

Updated by zGuba over 5 years ago

  • Due date set to 10/01/2009
  • Category set to AI Issues
  • Status changed from New to Feedback

What about 1.04?

Updated by Fireball over 5 years ago

  • File SS-2009.10.02-00.39.45.jpg added
  • Due date changed from 10/01/2009 to 11/01/2009
  • Status changed from Feedback to Assigned
  • Affected ArmA II version changed from 1.02.58134 to 1.04.59026
  • Reproduced by another DH user set to Yes

If I interpret this right, according to the mission attached, after 2-3 minutes I saw them standing behind the fence like in the attached screenshot. Looks like they feel safe there... :)

Updated by Fireball over 5 years ago

  • Due date changed from 11/01/2009 to 12/01/2009

Updated by Dwarden over 5 years ago

  • Assignee set to Dwarden

Updated by Luca about 5 years ago

  • Status changed from Assigned to Resolved

The cover system was changed so this shouldn't be such an issue at the moment.

Updated by kju about 5 years ago

  • Due date changed from 12/01/2009 to 02/05/2010
  • Assignee deleted (Dwarden)
  • Target version set to 1.05.62017

Please test and report back.

Updated by kju about 5 years ago

  • Due date deleted (02/05/2010)
  • Status changed from Resolved to Closed

No feedback unfortunately. Reopen if still problematic.

Updated by Bouben almost 5 years ago

I can confirm, that this bug is still actual.

Updated by kju almost 5 years ago

  • Due date set to 05/27/2010
  • Status changed from Closed to Assigned
  • Target version deleted (1.05.62017)
  • Affected ArmA II version changed from 1.04.59026 to 1.06 BETA

Thanks for the feedback

Updated by kju over 4 years ago

  • Due date changed from 05/27/2010 to 12/01/2010
  • Affected ArmA II version changed from 1.06 BETA to 1.55 BETA
  • Audio card set to Please specify!
  • Size of OS swap file set to Please specify!
  • I am using some Mods set to No
  • I am using set to CO (A2+OA)
  • Reproducible for you set to Yes

Still true in latest CO.

However personally I see it OK, as humans do it too and better than nothing.

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