Bug #27677

AI gunner ignores group leader 'hold fire' order, if player is driver or in cargo or not inside the tank.

Added by kju over 5 years ago. Updated almost 5 years ago.

Status:Assigned Start date:01/10/2012
Priority:Normal Due date:04/01/2012
Assignee:Dwarden % Done:


Category:AI Control
Target version:-
Affected ArmA II version:1.62.95248 First affected build:Please Specify...
Reproduced by another DH user:No First affected ArmA II version:1.61 Beta
I am using some Mods:No Single / Multi Player?:
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Reproducible for you:Yes NGUrl:
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The player is group leader. Hold fire is a group leader order.
Not talking about the "cease fire" command by the tank/vehicle commander.

When the player is commander of the tank, the gunner will respect the "hold fire" command.
Otherwise (player as driver, in cargo or not inside) he will engage regardless.

One could argue the AI gunner feels threatened and engages therefore.
However with a player commander (not true for AI commander though) he does respect the "hold fire" command.

So I guess a "hold fire" should be respected in all situations - even when threatened.

  1. Load attached demo mission in the editor
  2. Get into the empty T90 as driver
  3. Order one AI to get in as gunner
  4. Notice how he engages the M2A2
  5. Tell him to "hold fire"
  6. Notice how he continues engages the M2A2
  7. Switch to commander seat
  8. Notice how he stops engages the M2A2

Use BMP3 to test the hold fire while in back.
Stay outside the T90 to test that case.

27614.utes.7z (1.2 kB) kju, 01/10/2012 10:38

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Updated by kju over 5 years ago

  • First affected ArmA II version set to 1.61 Beta

This is new with 1.61. Probably due to #2353.

In 1.60 the AI gunner does not engages automatically, when the player is in as driver or commander.
He only does if you leave the tank (which was the issue #2353) - however he respected the "hold fire" order in that case.

Updated by Fireball over 5 years ago

  • Status changed from New to Assigned

Do you issue "hold fire" through squad order while commander or do you use the fire command to toggle between "Cease fire"/"Fire"? I assume the first one - did I read that right?

Sorry, the title makes it clear.

Updated by kju over 5 years ago

  • Description updated (diff)

Updated by admin over 5 years ago

  • Target version deleted (1198)

Updated by kju almost 5 years ago

  • Affected ArmA II version changed from 1.61 Beta to 1.62.95248

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