Feature #13627

L9A1 / Browning Hi-Power

Added by Sif almost 5 years ago. Updated over 4 years ago.

Status:Rejected Start date:09/11/2010
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Description

The British Army has had the Browning HP as a standard sidearm ever since 1954, it'd be nice to see that get possibly added into ACE along with the reasoning it's one of the most produced 9mm sidearms ever made. It's used in numerous countries armies as their standard sidearm and countless police departments also use them. The pistol is extremely reliable, which is how it earned the title King of Nines. There already is a Browning HP model done by Vilas that looks decent already, please add this sidearm!

(should be in here: http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=10353 )

http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/browning-hi-power/

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg17-e.htm

History

Updated by JDMT almost 5 years ago

ACE2 and Vilas don't work together. Ever.

Updated by Sif almost 5 years ago

JDMT wrote:

ACE2 and Vilas don't work together. Ever.

I honestly don't know how to respond to this, you're saying that this mod will never cooperate with a guy who's created a host of content that is out there to be used? It's a simple model, it's used by the AAW mod as well which has nothing but quality content also. I'm also trying to remember but the FN FAL Para that was originally in ArmA 2 ACE was iirc added from the Vilas West Pack. Or am I mistaken?

Regardless, this is a weapon that is extremely well sought after by many countries. It's reliable, battle proven, and has for a long time showed the newcomers how it's done even with being over ninety seven years old.

Updated by Scubaman3D almost 5 years ago

Yes, thats exactly what he's saying. I'm not trying to be a smartass but we've been down that road and it just didn't work out. We'll leave it at that.

Updated by Sif almost 5 years ago

Scubaman3D wrote:

Yes, thats exactly what he's saying. I'm not trying to be a smartass but we've been down that road and it just didn't work out. We'll leave it at that.

Not really, the discussion was cut short with an argument that now is baseless. Seeing as you guys added an M3a1 Grease Gun, and a TT-33. More armies use the Browning HP then the Glock, it's been proven. What's the problem with adding this workhorse?

for a ww2 mod

You guys just added an M3A1 Grease Gun which was last seen in the US armories in Desert Storm. Even then it wasn't the .45 M3 Grease Gun, it was the 9mm M3A1 version which was overall a shitty variant. So what's the deal, eh?

Updated by Den almost 5 years ago

Sif wrote:

So what's the deal, eh?

It would be much better if you check BI forums to find answer for this question. Seriously. It was discussed to hell.

Updated by Sif almost 5 years ago

Den wrote:

Sif wrote:

So what's the deal, eh?

It would be much better if you check BI forums to find answer for this question. Seriously. It was discussed to hell.

Like where? I've been viewing the ACE release thread for a while now and never have I seen the Grease Gun mentioned once. Show me a post where it has and i'll stand corrected.

Also, one again off the first part. If you honestly think the Browning HP has no place in the ACE2 pack then I think you're full of it. It's the most widely produced Western 9mm sidearm ever made. It's fielded by the British Army as it's standard sidearm ever since 1954 and still is going strong. Shit it's even used in the Australian Defense Force, a buddy of mine is in the ADF and is saying the same thing about the Browning also.

I'd like you to do some actual research on the Browning and actually form a well thought out answer as to why it shouldn't be added instead of rebutting things without providing factual information. I understand a lot of people here like to play armchair generals and try and say that Glock, SiG, and Beretta are all that exists with 9x19mm but i'd like to remind you who's the King of Nines. It's not the chunky M9, it's not the elegant Glock 17, nor the SiG P226. It's the Browning HP, it's got more battle experience then those three pistols combined, and then some.

Also: http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Harry_022908.jpg

Prince Harry with his Browning HP as proof if you can't seem to grasp how respected this gun is. It's carried by British royalty.

Updated by Vikhr almost 5 years ago

Read this from page 129-133: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?p=1251611&highlight=vilas+ace#post1251611

You will understand why Vilas will not work with ACE.

Updated by Den almost 5 years ago

Sif i was not talking about your lovely pistol but about the god damn question why Vilas model cannot be added.

Updated by Sif almost 5 years ago

Vikhr wrote:

Read this from page 129-133: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?p=1251611&highlight=vilas+ace#post1251611

You will understand why Vilas will not work with ACE.

I just got done reading that, that was a good read. Though I have seen that he has seemingly allowed the AAW mod use his Browning HP. I don't see how it would hurt to ask him about a single weapon of his, he seemed at the most peeved about his work not being credited properly.

Den wrote:

Sif i was not talking about your lovely pistol but about the god damn question why Vilas model cannot be added.

Factual information, Vikhr took the time to get some. You seemingly couldn't take any time, shame.

Edit: I do also know someone else who has modeled a lovely looking Browning if he says no, dunno if he'll say yes either though.

Updated by Den almost 5 years ago

Sif yeea shame on me lol

Updated by Sif almost 5 years ago

Den wrote:

Sif yeea shame on me lol

Well when all you do is basically just toss generalized statements about without anything to base them on it generally does present a case that you generally could not give two shits to show any form of knowledge about what you're talking about. Sort of like how a armchair general usually does.

Updated by VKing almost 5 years ago

Take the petty insult flinging and off-topic comments somewhere else.

Updated by Sif almost 5 years ago

VKing wrote:

Take the petty insult flinging and off-topic comments somewhere else.

Agreed, I admit my hot headed antics and apologize to the Devs for that. I guess I could just ask if they could probably give this a little more time for me to try and locate this guy who already has a Browning HP modeled for ArmA 2 and isn't named Vilas.

Updated by Den almost 5 years ago

Sif wrote:

isn't named Vilas.

Finally. Glad you made it.

Updated by Xeno almost 5 years ago

  • Status changed from New to Rejected

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