Task #12385

Proper gunner's optic for russian/soviet AFVs

Added by VKing about 5 years ago. Updated over 2 years ago.

Status:New Start date:07/27/2010
Priority:Low Due date:
Assignee:zGuba % Done:

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Category:Model Request
Target version:Model requests
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Description

Considering that a lot of the russian armoured vehicles do not have FCSs, I think they at least should get optics with the approperiate stadia lines and range marks.
The best picture I could find to illustrate was from NWD's tank fcs mod for arma 1, but I believe the BMP-2/BTR-90 has a similar setup.

4-nwd_tank_1.jpg (96 kB) VKing, 07/27/2010 15:15


Related issues

related to A.C.E. for OA - Bug #12572: Russian vehicles and night vision Rejected 08/01/2010

History

Updated by KingHomer about 5 years ago

  • Target version set to Planned (Needs Contributors)

You're absolutely right. I nearly commented all configs where proper sights are missing. We just need someone making them.

Updated by q1184 about 5 years ago

Maybe we'd be better off with just adding BIS sight adjustments to them?
Correct optics are really tedious to draw, plus on many Russian vehicles reticle moves up/down when gunner inputs the needed range. So it would mean a new system for that, too. I believe only BTR-60/BRDM-2 have fixed BDC-type optics for KPVT/PKT.

Updated by VKing about 5 years ago

Still need some sort of rangefinder in lieu of a laser one (e.g. stadia lines). I do think just a fixed sight would be enough, even if not entirely realistic.
Anyway, anything would be better. It's not too bad with the 2A42, since you can walk your shots, but trying to hit anything with the T55 as-is is quite tedious.

Updated by Zach about 5 years ago

I have been trying to get pic, but its very hard to get info on RU sights. But yes even BIS sight adjustment is better then nothing.

Updated by KingHomer about 5 years ago

Getting pictures is not the problem. I have most on them already sorted out and on my hard disk. The problem is making them usable ingame.

Updated by KingHomer almost 5 years ago

  • Status changed from New to Assigned
  • Assignee set to zGuba
  • Target version changed from Planned (Needs Contributors) to 395

I will provide all necessary informtion for zGuba.

Updated by TemichSablin almost 5 years ago

Dug up some info:

Optics 1K13 и TDPK-1 were outdated long ago. Optic 1K13 is a night vision sight plus information channel for shooting a 9М119 AT missile - in daytime. And for shooting all other normal ammo at night while stationary. Installed at old crap like T-72B, BMP etc. Sight TPDK-1 - daytime optic, main gunner's sight for almost all tanks of T-72 series. The analog would be 1А40 и 1А40-1. Not much difference but still old and ***. Nowadays they install other optics, almost all of them outfitted with NVG and TWS.

also, this:

Here's some info. On T-72 you would find 1A40 и 1A10-1. Some others, too. On T-80 there are newer 1G42 и 1G46. T-90 - even newer. Can't say since it's classified.

Oh come on, "classified" and "internet"? Will be digging more..
Oh dammit! Just look at that: http://www.army-guide.com/rus/product114.html
Well, umm, also i found this after some search, might be useful:
http://www.diaproektor.gomel.by/tank.html
Both sights are what they install on T-72. The left one is the good old 1K13, which they have even on T-55.
Also, this might be useful too:

When lining up a shot in T-72 the aim angle is entered into the aiming grid. On the other hand, in T-80U the aiming angle is entered into weapon position. And of course, they would have different aim sights.

Emm, guess it's the same for T-90, considering both T-90 and T-80U have the same optical equipment. Still couldn't find any images of the optical grid.

Updated by rocko almost 5 years ago

  • Target version changed from 395 to Planned (Needs Contributors)

Updated by rocko over 4 years ago

Still needed? Where is the info?

Updated by rocko over 4 years ago

  • Target version changed from Planned (Needs Contributors) to Model requests

Updated by rocko over 4 years ago

  • Tracker changed from Feature to Task
  • Category set to Model
  • Status changed from Assigned to New
  • Priority changed from Normal to Low

Updated by zGuba over 4 years ago

Yeah, I hope we could get as many data about optics (FoVs, zoom, grids) as possible. Making properly zoomed and FoVed optics is then easy piece of cake.

Updated by rocko over 4 years ago

  • Category changed from Model to Model Request

Updated by MagicStuffUser almost 3 years ago

Sorry, bump, what scopes you need?! :)

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